Logan_the_libcom
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I have come to chew bubble gum and spread communism. And I'm all out of bubblegum.
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Post by Logan_the_libcom on Mar 15, 2016 19:55:44 GMT
By Stalin, I really mean most communist "dictators". Maybe it's because I was ML for the longest time, but I do believe that many accusations thrown at Lenin, Stalin, and (especially in my opinion) Mao are completely false. This could lead to people being more accepting of communism, or it could make us seem like apologists and link us to marxist-leninism. Should we further distance ourselves from these men or should we try and explain what they did in a hope to raise the public opinion of communism?
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arakhion
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Post by arakhion on Mar 15, 2016 21:52:36 GMT
The whole point of Libertarian Socialism is to have a form of socialism that is not associated with dictatorship and censorship.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 8:42:53 GMT
If you mean defend them from things that are inaccurate, then we should. We shouldn't say "Stalin killed 80 million." because that isn't true. As long as what we defend is about being objective and not ideology, then I think we should.
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AnarchyInTheUK
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Post by AnarchyInTheUK on Mar 19, 2016 0:49:07 GMT
If you mean defend them from things that are inaccurate, then we should. We shouldn't say "Stalin killed 80 million." because that isn't true. As long as what we defend is about being objective and not ideology, then I think we should. Yep, pretty much. I wouldn't say "defend" as much as educate people about why they should be examples of why authoritarianism is bad and not why communism is bad |
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Post by somethingimpromptu on Mar 28, 2016 20:06:33 GMT
By Stalin, I really mean most communist "dictators". Maybe it's because I was ML for the longest time, but I do believe that many accusations thrown at Lenin, Stalin, and (especially in my opinion) Mao are completely false. This could lead to people being more accepting of communism, or it could make us seem like apologists and link us to marxist-leninism. Should we further distance ourselves from these men or should we try and explain what they did in a hope to raise the public opinion of communism? I think that associating communism with Stalin, Lenin, Mao, etc., is exactly why public opinion of communism is so negative. It's why Western propaganda goes out of its way to associate socialism and communism with authoritarian dictatorship, military bureaucracy, and state-controlled economy. Their goal is to convince us that the only possible alternative to capitalism is state tyranny. So defending them only demonizes us along with them. |
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Logan_the_libcom
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I have come to chew bubble gum and spread communism. And I'm all out of bubblegum.
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Post by Logan_the_libcom on Mar 28, 2016 20:23:55 GMT
By Stalin, I really mean most communist "dictators". Maybe it's because I was ML for the longest time, but I do believe that many accusations thrown at Lenin, Stalin, and (especially in my opinion) Mao are completely false. This could lead to people being more accepting of communism, or it could make us seem like apologists and link us to marxist-leninism. Should we further distance ourselves from these men or should we try and explain what they did in a hope to raise the public opinion of communism? I think that associating communism with Stalin, Lenin, Mao, etc., is exactly why public opinion of communism is so negative. It's why Western propaganda goes out of its way to associate socialism and communism with authoritarian dictatorship, military bureaucracy, and state-controlled economy. Their goal is to convince us that the only possible alternative to capitalism is state tyranny. So defending them only demonizes us along with them. Then the question becomes, how do we properly distance ourselves? |
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Post by exopiku on Jun 3, 2019 20:46:05 GMT
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Post by agassei on Jun 3, 2019 22:32:58 GMT
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